Posts by Bill Covert

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Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?

by careful in

the war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.

especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.

yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.

Bill Covert

the article said that in 1951 10,000 JW's were sent to Siberia. I don't remember that publicized in the Societies writings, as in the case of Germany. 1951 was in the Stalin era, so much different than the era prior to Putin and his partnership with the Orthodox Church.

Sea Breeze post on the 1963 UN resolution perhaps has a connection. That resolution was centered in the release of the "Babylon the Great" as much ado was being made of the "little horn" on the head of the "wild beast" the "whore" was riding. As if I remember right the "little horn" was the UN.

So if the church wanted to go back to writings in the "Revelation book" , the "Babylon book" they could say that the partnership between Putin and the Orthodox Church was accurately depicted in the "Babylon book" as the "whore" climbing back up on the back of the "wild beast"

But then they would have a problem with their resolutions during the 1960's where they were poking a sharp stick in the eye of the Catholic and Orthodox church's. So then what responsibility falls on the present day GB for the mouth of Fred Franz who provoked the "harlot" to where some really good people are now catching hell?

Any thoughts?

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Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?

by careful in

the war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.

especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.

yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.

Bill Covert

There was a news article on AT&T Yahoo news a few weeks ago that stated that the JW's in Mariupol were being arrested as in Russia.

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1963 Resolution Condemning the United Nations

by Sea Breeze in

quote from that world wide resolution: .

that, in order to prevent the destruction of the nations by their own means in war, the nations further refused the surrender of their sovereignty to god’s messianic kingdom by setting up a society of nations, which, since 1945, has taken the form and the name of the united nations, with international headquarters at new york city.

this international organization stands for world sovereignty by political men.

Bill Covert

I remember those resolutions, plural. 1963 was the release of the "Babylon the Great" book. During that time period everything was centered around the book Revelation and Daniel. There was great energy and excitement with in the organization, in those days. There was "new light" at every convention; Truth book, the Aid book. There was the surge in pioneering due to the war.

My comment would be; that the hardships experienced by the brothers in Russia, Ukraine are a direct result of the resolutions that attacked Babylon the Great. Those resolutions were sharp sticks in the eye, "goads" into the eyes of the "harlot". During that time period the USSR was the "king of the north". The "king of the north" was communist, anti god.

So my comment would be; that the Russian Orthodox Church has a long memory.

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New lawsuit against the Watchtower in Ontario, Canada

by yalbmert99 in

the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.

it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.

i don’t have more details.

Bill Covert

In 2013 I was the apostate who's using the tactic to write letters to the publishers homes was cited in the main summer assembly talk "Human Apostates". When that talk hit the Netherlands a attorney put a piece in the paper, stating that talk constituted "hate speech" and was in violation of law. The point was made that this legal statute was enacted because of Adolf Hitler.

So as you are seeing Europe becoming more sensitive to "shunning", and other human rights issues understand Hitler left his mark on Europe.

I am not the most popular writer as to anyone listening to what I have to say but there is one group of people who do listen. On this site and in my letters to the homes and Kingdom Hall's in Redding. i would cite a YouTube clip on a Lorenz Reibling, a JW and the head of the "Taurus" investment group. There was a YouTube clip of him in Argentina peddling multiple multi million funding for investments in worth while projects. This coincided with the time period of the disappearance of $2B of receipts from the liquidation of the Brooklyn real estate portfolio. Those YouTube clips of Reibling I could not find, they are no longer there.

The point being made as where money comes from to settle molestation's, remember $2B from liquidation of Brooklyn assets was squirreled away some where.

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Jehovah's Witnesses' "disfellowshipping" examined in Psychiatric Journal. "How Religious Shunning Ruins Lives".

by Balaamsass2 in

if it is illegal for minors to get married, enter into contracts, drink, and smoke, why is it legal for them to enter into lifelong religious contracts they can not break without family shunning and community ostracism????

how religious shunning ruins lives.

a form of institutionalized estrangement, shunning hurts health of the excluded.. updated march 27, 2024 |psychology today magazine.

Bill Covert

IIED, cool

Thanks! I am currently in negotiations with the local Indian Casino on 4 parcels of real estate that separates a major development in the works from freeway interchange access. Price somewhere north of $1M.

I have been waiting 20 years for this scenario. Everyone of the letters included in the 2013 summer talk "Human Apostates" has centered on the Sept.1 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" as to how it relates to two court cases; a $4.250M unregistered securities swindle and the defrauding of a widow. And on the cowardice of elders in the face of "wolves" Acts 20.

If and when those properties go into escrow this should be enough to bring some cowardly hearts to shut down. When Norway court case finished I dropped off the case and a letter advising the elders they should consider see their insurance agents as to getting personal liability insurance. They can't say they were not warned.

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I think I know what the GB is doing

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

read:.

but if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘my master is delaying,’b 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards.

hmm... let's see is anyone on the governing body a strict master and a drunkard?

Bill Covert

The position I have put forth is that in 1984 the "obedience to the Organization mantra" was introduced. It was quickly followed by the introduction of a brand new enemy "the apostate", along with the brand new sanction "the shunning policy". For written evidence I put forth the Sept. 1 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" deception of Lev.5: 1 as a well thought out deception fabricated for the purpose of creating a Gestapo informant hunting license designed to ferret out the "apostate"!

I would put forth that there was a meeting to create this conspiracy in about 1983. This conspiracy was reactionary to the demise of Matt.24: 34 in 1975. As fertile imaginative minds go there was no one on the GB who could fill the shoes of F. Franz, the man was genius in the writing of fiction. As "apostates", "shunning" obedience to the GB was non existent prior to 1984 and that this was a package deal I would put forth that it was in 1983 the decision was made of a "faithful slave" to conspire to take over the 'household of God' being as how the "master delayed" in 1975.

To complete the "snare and racket" scenario this was when the 'cash cow' of interest paying building loans came into being.

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Spiritual Paradise? Jehovah's Witness cons JW seniors out of life savings.

by Balaamsass2 in

3/28/2024 central california coast.

found guilty of $1.2 million scam targeting seniors.

ex-insurance agent brett e. lovett convicted of fraud, elder abuse, grand theft, and money laundering".

Bill Covert

The church policy that covers fraud is 1Cor.6: 1-6. The victims are prohibited from using the courts to get justice. Go to court be shunned!

This is a ingrained issue with in the JW Church Isa.1:23 and their traveling men. There was a Wt. on 1Pet.5:2, it spoke of "simony" as a sin that traveling sell the word of God. This is why there multiple victims!

All my troubles stem from a swindler Ray Dale from the San Diego area. He had a 20+ year career defrauding widows and seniors. I emailed a JW attorney asked if he knew Ray Dale he said he was one of many San Diego attorney's who knew him.

If what I heard was true this attorney was disfellowshipped for representing a JW in court. From the same source Ray Dale also screwed the San Diego attorney James McCabe parents.

Last I seen of J. McCabe was a TV interview at the conclusion of the Candace Conti molestation. He did not look so very explaining the court loss.

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Alternative Military Service is Now OK

by Sea Breeze in

but i wonder: how many jw's went to prison during the years that the wt did not allow them to perform community service as an alternative to military service?.

anyone care to take a stab at the numbers?.

Bill Covert

That is correct.

I can't remember the name but there was guy in Redding [done moved away] who did alternative community service at a hospital, got disfellowshiped for it.

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Alternative Military Service is Now OK

by Sea Breeze in

but i wonder: how many jw's went to prison during the years that the wt did not allow them to perform community service as an alternative to military service?.

anyone care to take a stab at the numbers?.

Bill Covert

In my case the Redding Calif. Selectivity Service Board issued me a order to report to the LA CA. Charity Organization, for alternative community service, 1966 I believe. The letter I got back from Bethel was that would be a compromise of christian conscience.

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Alternative Military Service is Now OK

by Sea Breeze in

but i wonder: how many jw's went to prison during the years that the wt did not allow them to perform community service as an alternative to military service?.

anyone care to take a stab at the numbers?.

Bill Covert

Count me in. I got a fine, the judge position that prison was a government expense, the fine was government income.

Does have one up side, no jury duty.